Economic World

The cascading effect of economic fall down of major icons of america will have an affect on employment and income of indian it and other sectors which affects purchasing power of employees. so depression may start which affects construction of housing and other construction activities directly and its cascading affect other sectors like steel and cement. so it will affect in many ways. solution will be every body work hard to counter this depression that starts. once good times come we reap the benefits. the people in the service industry should be more customer friendly and work hard to service. if broking industry is affected wiht less volume couriers industry and their employess. this is just an example. we have seen unprecedent growth and now we will see reaction to it. be ready, hope...............

bongaigaon refineries set to go to 90

with its double bottom and in the making of higher tops bongai is set to go to rs. 90 cmp 61.65 in bse.

ifci for a leap to above 90 soon

ifci after forming double bottom and showing minior higher tops the scrip is poised for a leap to 90 and above cmp in bse is 60.45 as on 5/2/2008

reliance communication venture targetting 904 in short term

reliance communication venture with its cmp 577.5 in bse consolidating after major fall. it is targetting 904 in short term.

lanco infratech is set for a good jump in the near term

with various trendline being cut from below by the price and increase in volume lanco is in a good position to touch 851 cmp is 481 in short term.

india infoline targetting 1666 before sept 15nth

india infoline with cmp 876.80 is poised to touch 1666 before sep 15nth 2008. with its higher bottom and cutting of trendline from below and increase of volume along with price is the scrip is in a good technical position to improve.

tech mahindra targetting 1053

Tech mahindra well poised for a leap to 1053 in the very near term. with price breaking the long term trendline and neck line of the head and shoulder. scrip is in a good technical posiition to rise. volume is rising along with right shoulder.

hind oil exploration

hind oil exploration after shakeout low consolidation and spurted with gap and volume crosssing two trendlines giving a potential to improve in medium term to 159.

shaw wallace analyst delight

shaw wallace cmp 357.15 in bse found support at long term support line and formed almost trible bottom and crossing of two trendlijnes with good volume potential to go upto 522 in 150 days .Invest and happily have a peg too.

indowind energy -invest in this and unwind yourself

indowind energy after continuous fall now broke the trend line with a gap and with relatively good volume. you can invest for short to medium term for a target of 237.
krishnapvm

mrpl targeting 128

MRPL after shake out low has consolidated and now broken the trendline with volume targetting 128 in short term

jindal steel to fortify your portfolio

after major sell of jindal steel made a come back with a thrust with volume and 20 day moving average isbroken and trend lines broken it is aiming for rs. 3400 in short and medium term.

krishnapvm.yahoo.co.in

catch this lobster divi labs before it goes to 1750

divis lab making double bottom bottoming at importatn pyramid angle is showing strength to go upto 1750. grab it for short to medium term

my understanding w.d.gann writings in my previous posts at different forums

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Thursday, 30 June, 2005 4:20 PM
All done
Gann Harmonic Traders
First of all we shall discuss about what Gann did Gann did the following.
1.he used to project the price along with the precise date by which a particular share reaches the target respective of whatever the price in between
2. he used to give projected curve for one year in advance
3. He used to tell what price it will not touch which is very nearer to the prevailing rate. for example if prevailing rate is 63.5 he will say it will not touch 63.75
let us go to the other clues provide by Gann
1.all swings are cyclical.(this statement is very important for projected curve)
2. Volume, trend or pitch, time and price and vibration are used in his calculation. he said vibration is fundamental (this reference of vibration has not come after his article in ticker and investment digest)
3. he has used the angles from 1/8 to 8/8 to determine the trend
4. referred about equinoxes and solicits and told that small difference in time will exist in dates
5. he has told that the secret is in the tunnel thru air (indeed it is there ---. (but I dint find the reason why the Robert Gordon was so obsessed with one god rather than cardinal rule of doing good to others as we are done by) if there are any mistake please correct me and suggest me. But one thing is quite evident even to a child that sarvatho badra chakra is the main calculation he has used. That mystic chakra from India which is used for prediction even today by astrologer in India. India is a land of mysticism more than money earning knowledge is given importance and used for society at large. The secrets are known to few individuals. But he has not given much credit where it is due. in the same way the people talk about Fibonacci named after Fibonacci who is just 500 years old which are used and always remembered in homes of many in India from ancient times which are called shree durga numbers (the numbers of mother goddess energy) shree durga number not only contains so called Fibonacci number and also other number if you care to know. all temples in India are constructed based on these calculations giving harmony to who ever goes there. We are forgetting roots of these knowledge and lost we are going to for begging when very great meal is served before us. with Regards Happy Trading
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Friday, 8 July, 2005
Truth of Gann-Magic number 4 2 3
Gann Harmonic Traders
magic numbers 4 2 3
Let us consider this magic number and ponder over them. Let us try to see the combinations.
4*2=8,
4+2+3=9
4+3=7
3+2=5
4/2=2 simply half nine and multiples there of are resistance points seven and multiples there of are support points 5/8 are given importance

Let us continue afterward. meanwhile tell me how many pages are there in the tunnel thru air it is for the ear which is ready
happy trading
regards
sarvejana sukhino bhavthu(all should live happily)

Friday 8, July, 2005
Truth of Gann-Magic number 4 2 3
Time Price Research - II
magic numbers 4 2 3
Let us consider this magic number and ponder over them. Let us try to see the combinations.
4*2=8,
4+2+3=9
4+3=7
3+2=5
4/2=2 simply half nine and multiples there of are resistance points seven and multiples there of are support points 5/8 are given importance

Let us continue afterward. meanwhile tell me how many pages are there in the tunnel thru air it is for the ear which is ready
happy trading
regards
sarvejana sukhino bhavthu(all should live happily)
Saturday 9 July 2005
RE : Truth of Gann-Magic number 4 2 3
Gann Harmonic Traders
After discussing numbers 4 2 3 I would like to delve into the matter of what Gann said there are a circle square and a triangle. Have you ever tried with this please do it these are all there in numerous mantras in sasthras of India which is meant for different purposes which gives the clues to different classification of base elements and how they move and their half. Some elements given in Brahma sutras and prathamika Brahma sutras are still are found by present day seers (scientists). There are different sastras especially mandokapanisth which have more commentaries than any other scrip in the world will explain about moving things. there are different scriptures for everything from how we behave to how to construct different machines like machine which can fly and move on earth and go into ocean and photography railways and how to do surgery how much electricity required for to replace amputated part of the body. You may require one book for nursery class but as you go on you may require many books. That is what Indian scriptures are. What you want whether you want one book or more books. Please see the cover page of commodities course by Gann sarvejana sukhino bhavathu means every body should be happy this is from Vedic scriptures krishnapvm any how see the cover page of commodities course of Gann.
Tuesday 12, July, 2005
Cycles and spirituality
Gann Harmonic Traders
Both are amazing cycles and spirituality cycles of nature will not be revealed to you unless you are philosophic also we need to go to the correct path of freedom. please follow the link we cannot exploit the nature but nature gives itself to one deserve ithttp://www.dailyreadings.com/ys1-1.htm
with best,
regards,
happy trading sarvejana sukhino bhavathu(every body should live happily) krishnapvm
Monday 25, July, 2005
Truth of Gann
Gann Harmonic Traders
Stocks can be predicted with high success rate with the help of laws of nature along with the time frame. Revelation has strict to me when I am verifying some concepts in physics. After a verifying so much of data of the past with so many time frames. I found the law of vibration is behind the cause of the market movement. The small difficult part of this whole study is where from to start the calculation. Gann insisted to study past data and patterns. this pattern study is important. he stresses more importance to higher bottoms or double bottoms and lower tops and double tops. Volume concept he has given much importance to this especially observe this pattern when we are making new high or low. Float analysis indicator will help in this regard swing points of the past all the past swing points creates vibration have an effect on present prices. Only thing different vibration will have different effects. Price and time are calculated in the same way. I will continue again. Regards happy trading day sarvejana sukhino bhavathu(everybody live happily) my messenger id krishnapvm
Tuesday 26th July, 2005
Truth of Gann Gann’s law of vibration
Gann Harmonic Traders
Main Entry: vi·bra·tion
Pronunciation: vI-'brA-sh&n
Function: noun
1 a : a periodic motion of the particles of an elastic body or medium in alternately opposite directions from the position of equilibrium when that equilibrium has been disturbed (as when a stretched cord produces musical tones or molecules in the air transmit sounds to the ear) b : the action of vibrating : the state of being vibrated or in vibratory motion: as (1) : OSCILLATION (2) : a quivering or trembling motion : QUIVER
2 : an instance of vibration
3 : vacillation in opinion or action : WAVERING
4 a : a characteristic emanation, aura, or spirit that infuses or vitalizes someone or something and that can be instinctively sensed or experienced -- often used in plural b : a distinctive usually emotional atmosphere capable of being sensed -- usually used in plural
- vi·bra·tion·al /-shn&l, -sh&-n&l/ adjective
- vi·bra·tion·less /-sh&n-l&s/ adjective I think you need not go further than this mr. Paul Now, when a sincere seeker approaches an enlightened teacher, with the right attitude of discipleship (viz., free of preconceived notions and prejudices, and full of intelligent faith and receptivity) and with the right spirit of inquiry, at the right time and the right place, communication of yoga takes place.

the above is from patanjali yoga sutras.

we are all students of natures.

sarvejana sukhinobhavathu(let every body be happy)

krishnapvm
Tuesday 26th July, 2005
RE: Gann’s law of vibration –roots of the words
Gann Harmonic Traders
going to the roots of the word we have to dig too deep the word yahova is the lord of lords in Sanskrit and Vedic literature Nile came from word Nile Egypt came from eesha peetha (means seat of god)the word Hebrew itself came from hebrara of Sanskrit origin. The word eesha is itself means the lord. To venture further yahova means shivoham aham shivah means I am the shivathe lord which is what Gann presented. Without knowing the eastern history we cannot presume anything as one great scientists in archeology told it is the interesting subject of semantics. Krishnapvm
Wed 27, July, 2005
Truth of Gann –time calculations and timings
Gann Harmonic Traders
Gann method is based on time and price not timing and price as some people in the group say. After seeing the projected curve he has prepared one year in advance we cannot say his method is not based on time. After deciding the target based on the calculation timing of purchase was done at different times. the vibration point for calculation of last time window need not occur at latest low or swing point. The swing point of the calculation some time differs with latest swing point. With my experience I can say the fixed angles drawn from the lows are also to find out the pressure points. When the maximum velocity occurs. This can be called as mass pressure times. These things can be done. as per the target of price it depends on the historical swing points. as regards time window it is calculated in the same way as swing in the price.
Wed, 27 July, 2005
RE: truth of Gann-assumptions of time and price relations
Gann Harmonic Traders
According to our some fellow respected members of the group research into time and price relationship is waste. if that is the case so many scientists are wasting their time. They are writing all shit. We will tell the same thing to Hawkins who has written history of time and propounding new theories of time, who is acclaimed as the best scientist in the world presently. As per me he is more famous than Einstein. Don’t research think about today and enjoy is the motto. all the projected curves he has given in advance are manipulated. This is the forum for learning time and price theories. The law is there. Only we need to explore in right spirit. Work hard be holy and pure and the fire will commit is a quote from Vivekananda I thought I may be doing wrong by being silent on this matter. If I am wrong I am ready to accept my mistake. A Hindu is a person who is ready to be defeated or win in eternal arguments to learn more with that to benefit society at large. regards happy trading
Tuesday, 2 August, 2005 11:04 PM
Re: Gann’s method are simple-my opinion
Gann Harmonic Traders
Gann's methods are so simple. It is my opinion. No complicated calculations as regards targets and mass pressure times.

Simple 45 degree angles will explain all and simple 45 degree angle will have two purposes. One is telling mass pressure times or where maximum action takes places in future. Some times when it coincides with price it will give turning dates also.

Second one is giving the precise time window along with price target. Any swing high and low work as cyclical and can be project the future. The hardest part in his technique first how to determine the trend. This needs some experience and for that he has taken the help so many angles. These so many angles are only for trend determination. (This is my belief). For trend determination and starting of a new trend he used to see the patterns of double top or lower tops and double bottoms and higher bottoms. And he has taken the help of volume and how it has been absorbed. If this is done targets are magical. Mainly his work involved periodicity which can be measured through geometry. Everything he has drawn on charts is not without purpose.

I want to stress again the angles other than 45 degrees he used are for trend determination and measuring the velocity. The magical part of his prediction is his prediction of targets within a precise time window. This is the easiest part. By putting 45 degree angle from all swing points and taking some range calculation he can project into future. That is how he has given projected curve for one year in advance. Above all are my opinions given based on my personal trading experience after studying and testing?

If any body has a different opinion I am open to learn. Vivekananda Quote of the Day

The world is ready to give up its secrets if we only know how to knock, how to give it the necessary blow.
The strength and force of the blow come through concentration. krishnapvm@yahoo.co.in krishnapvm
Saturday, 6 August, 2005 10:32 PM
Re: beans
Gann Harmonic Traders
I believe that Elliott rules say that abc correction if it is a zig zag will have 5 3 5 setup. This is what is seen. What it means is a b c is subdivided into 5 3 5. Ok this is b c are common in flat and irregular corrections. Only a is differing. A will have sub waves of five in zig zag in flats a will have 3 sub waves and irregular correction. The point here is in the given chart b have retraced more than .618 of a wave. The rule says is the b rally should not be more than .618. Now the total waves should be recounted. How we can do it. It all depends on the sub wave. I think we need more data to correctly interpret this phenomenon. As Elliott insisted when there is recounting need to be done go to sub waves of sub waves. They are not apparent here for we need hourly chart. What is classified as 1 and 2 of a may be part of failure of the last impulse waves. Which can be verified in hourly chart? As ancient scrip patanjali yoga sutras says that the trends should be observed from minutest time frame possible.
The second scenario classifying as third of third running holds good as per me.
Elliott as per me involves the work of eliminating the many probabilities and coming to best possible count. With the given data classifying third of third seems to be good probability. Elliott is more elaborate in pattern definition than anybody. As Gann insisted that pattern is also important, Elliott waves are worth studying. Why pattern is important is some patterns gives more swings than other patterns. Especially wedges.

I humbly request to correct me.

quotes from Vivekananda

Thank God for giving you this world as a moral gymnasium to help your development, but never imagine
You can help the world. -------------krishnapvm
Saturday, 6 August, 2005 10:55 PM
RE: Beans
Gann Harmonic Traders
the b rally of ziz zag cannot be more than .618 ofwave a --- murali krishna venkata puppala
Tuesday, 16 August, 2005 5:05 PM
Re: Gann's law of vibration
Gann Harmonic Traders
Very good contribution I firmly believed that Gann methods are same as you have given. The perturbation theory. My method incorporated this fundamental principles of taking past swing points. And estimating future target point. But one thing vibration under constant state of flux. Simultaneously many perturbation of the past will be mixing and the targets may be overshooting by other perturbation. So we may not see actual turning point at that time. Based on this method better work with targets. Reversal points got a different methods to calculate. And I want to point out natural laws are inviolate not probabilities. In the nature you will find male and female construction and destruction yin and yang. So you need to know where to begin the calculation. Gann also mentioned that where to start the calculation is important. in our case in the stock market we need to know the
Trend. For trend determination Gann followed nine different methods. Once it is done other things are magical. We see only magical part. The real work lays in trend determination as many vibrations which works in two directions has to be sorted out first.

quote from Vivekananda

I, for one, thoroughly believe that no power in the
universe can with hold from anyone anything they really
deserve
Happy trading. krishnapvm@yahoo.co.in
Sunday, 18 September, 2005 1:09 AM
Re: One more bites the dust in WITS.
Gann Harmonic Traders
if any body can be booted for religious stuff the Gann may be the one who talked and used religious symbols
And taken clues from religious text of India and bible. Even Gann himself will be booted out on that condition.

quote from swami Vivekananda

"Take up one idea. Make that one idea your life
- think of it, dream of it, and live on idea. Let the
brain, muscles, nerves, every part of your body, be
full of that idea, and just leave every other idea
Alone. This is the way to success."

There cannot be friendship without equality.

regards and happy trading
krishnapvm
Sunday, 18 September, 2005 10:57 AM
Re: One more bites the dust in WITS.
Gann Harmonic Traders
dear ski woke (perm)
That is the quote from Vivekananda. Coming to the story of lord Krishna and sudama. They are not friends Until they became equal. Sudama has not shared the food when it was asked by lord Krishna. Only when he repented and shared he became equal. That is the message beautiful message encoded in the story. You need to be equal and see equality every where. Krishnapvm
Tuesday, 20 September, 2005 1:11 AM
Gann spoke about the cause let us see ( pasya)
Gann Harmonic Traders
Gann spoke in mathematical formulas article

the lowest price may futures sold, is within 1/2 point of 67 1/2 which is 12/64 or 3/4 between 0 and 90 and 67 1/2 is half way between 45 and 90 which was the CAUSE of the may beans making lows for 5 years between 67-69 which indicated the big advance that followed as there are tribal bottom between 67-69 in three different years.

He stressed on the CAUSE in the ticker and investment digest. Here we SEE the reference of the cause in the example.

quote from Vivekananda

You cannot believe in God until you believe in
Yourself. Krishnapvm
Friday, 7 October, 2005 6:51 PM
Gann said all good swings are cyclical
Gann Harmonic Traders
Gann said all good swing points are cyclical. Krishnapvm
Wednesday, 9 November, 2005 10:44 PM
circle square and a triangle
Gann Harmonic Traders
There is circle square and a triangle. And also there is outside circle and outside square. Inside circle and inside squares are the initial vibration initiation vibration gives clues as to higher vibration. Both represent the same form. What is this vibration is the relation of square and a circle and its relation to the triangle. Square divides the circle in four parts triangle three parts. The initial vibration will give the target and where maximum resistance can be met along with projected curve.
quote from Vivekananda
The power of purity—it is a definite power. --------------------krishnapvm
Thursday, 10 November, 2005 12:26 AM
Re: circle square and a triangle
Gann Harmonic Traders
hi friend
I am with sarvatho badra chakra which Gann copied from
India from the past five years.

Krishnapvm
Friday, 11 November, 2005 11:12 PM
Re: circle square and a triangle
Gann Harmonic Traders
my yahoo messenger id is krishnapvm

There is a vibratory ratio and also vibratory direction. This direction in x and y axis is more important. This is done like cycle in x and y axis. I have given prediction continuously like giving a target before an exact date. this I am doing just to let the people know that there is a possibility to do.------------------Krishnapvm

Sunday, 20 November, 2005 1:30 AM
generating circle and a triangle lords Brahma Vishnu parameswara
Gann Harmonic Traders
If generating circle is five triangle are four. Initial triangle acts as vibration. Which is equitant to three forces Shiva Vishnu Brahma Shiva, The neutron Vishnu the maintainer and the protector, the electron Brahma the creator different combination of electrons makes (creates) the matter. The electrons connected to proton which is symbolized by the Brahma on lotus generating from the belly button (nabhisthan.)Of Vishnu lord. Around Shiva the neutron there is a beautiful dance of energy particle. Can we call it parvathi or ours adi devi shakti. unable to explain and stupefied by the dance of energy particle around the lord Shiva, the neutron modern scientists called it as beuaty,great guru adi shankara charya called it as soundarya lahari.

If we modify the triangle into five it becomes a square.

Now the generating circle, square and triangle are formed. This become the basis for the next square and circle. Next square gives the targets. Circle gives us the what it will do after that. Two opposite angles to be taken for balancing the time and price. There is an initial circle, squire and triangle which give way to next square and circle. The initial square becomes part of the bigger circle.

quotes from Vivekananda
I am the thread that runs through all these pearls,"
And each pearl is a religion or even a sect thereof.

Such are the different pearls, and God is the thread that runs through all of them; most people, however, are entirely unconscious of it. “Comfort” is no test of truth; on the contrary, truth is often far from being “comfortable.” “Face the brutes.” That is a lesson for all life—face the terrible, face it boldly. Like the monkeys, the hardships of life fall back when we cease to flee before them. A few heart-whole, sincere, and energetic men and women can do more in a year than a mob in a century.-----------krishnapvm
Friday, 9 December, 2005 10:58 PM
the secret is in the vibration-the Indian ancient science
Gann Harmonic Traders
The secret is in the word vibration. Vibration is vibration is vibration and vibration. Gann is mathematical. The secret of Gann can be summarized in to simple vibration. Peripherals are time price volume trend or pitch. The relation between time and price gives vibration.You want more clues read the Rumanian moths. The realGann knowledge is from Indian ancient science.
Thursday, 15 December, 2005 8:11 PM
Re: Gold-what wd said is right
Gann Harmonic Traders
hi friends
Yes what wd said is correct all past good swing point or high and lows are cyclical. They are the basis for the future direction and also for the target. The angle of movement can also be known by following a certain ratios of universal movement. Each high or swing highs and lows will have their effect in future just a stone thrown in the pond. Wave depends on the stone and speed. It creates the effect. I do fully agree with wd as regards.

quotes from Vivekananda

When we have become free, we need not go mad and throw up society and rush off to die in the forest or the cave; we shall remain where we were but we shall understand the whole thing. The same phenomena will remain but with a new meaning. Stand up, be bold, and be strong. Take the whole responsibility on your own shoulders, and know that you are the creator of your own destiny. All the strength and succor you want is within you.
Friday, 16 December, 2005 8:07 PM
Re: the secret is in the vibration-the Indian ancient science
Gann Harmonic Traders
It is helping me mr. john and it helped many.

Initial vibration will resolves itself into higher vibration. The target depends on balancing of time and price. And the angle of movement depends on low or high and its relation to initial vibration.

quotes from Vivekananda

Are great things ever done smoothly? Time, patience, and indomitable will must show.

Are you unselfish? That is the question. If you are, you will be perfect without reading a single religious book, without going into a single church or temple.
Friday, 16 December, 2005 11:33 PM
Re: Time-when time meets price
Gann Harmonic Traders
when will the time meets price

Three day rule is a condition for swing point as I use it. I use mainly calendar days. When I use it I use mainly to focus on targets. Some people focus on turning points. But both can be done with the same indicator. Coming to the point of time meets price, this secret of this time meets price will be known when balancing of time and price is known. This needs time values. These time value can be found.

quote from Vivekananda

Please everyone without becoming a hypocrite or a coward.
Saturday, 17 December, 2005 8:37 PM
Re: Time-when time meets price
Gann Harmonic Traders
by knowing harmonic nature of the market as ri ga ma pa da ni sa

quotes from Vivekananda

Fill the brain with high thoughts, highest ideals, place them day and night before you, and out of that will come great work.
First get rid of the delusion “I am the body,” then only will we want real knowledge.
Friday, 24 February, 2006 1:48 PM
time and price what goes into them
Gann Harmonic Traders
Time and price are calculated in the same way. Time got cycles and price too. Then we need to think in another dimension that is taking certain time values in to account. When time meets price reversal is imminent.

Wish you all happy trading.

please see the reliance time and price chart in the files section
Friday, 24 February, 2006 5:13 PM
the case of initial vibration and doubling and trebling itself
Gann Harmonic Traders
The initial vibration double and treble. The numbers in the universe are not random but follow a sequence.

Please follow the files section for the case of initial vibration. It will also giving turning point with equaling of time and price.
Wednesday, 22 March, 2006 9:48 PM
when time meets price
Gann Harmonic Traders
When time meets price reversal is imminent. When unit of price meet unit of time? now the question comes of
The unit of price. In many Gann example Gann gave importance to no 36. any thing can be converted into 36
When 36 units of price meets 36 units of time reversal is most probable maximum resistance we get there.
Now again the questing what is this unit of price. For soybean bean he followed for one cent one space of time he used. For other shares or commodities different scales are used. This scaling is the most important aspect of Gann. After finding unit of price and unit of time we need to find how it will be equal to 36. once proper scaling is found next level within a time frame is possible with great success

quotes from Vivekananda

"I am the thread that runs through all these pearls,"
And each pearl is a religion or even a sect thereof.
Such are the different pearls, and God is the thread
that runs through all of them; most people, however,
Are entirely unconscious of it.

“Comfort” is no test of truth; on the contrary, truth
Is often far from being “comfortable.”

“Face the brutes.” That is a lesson for all life—face
The terrible, face it boldly. Like the monkeys, the
hardships of life fall back when we cease to flee
Before them.

Krishnapvm
Saturday, 25 March, 2006 11:37 PM
numbers and concepts that goes into Gann studies
Gann Harmonic Traders
Some of the important numbers and concepts of geometrical side of Gann.
Number 36 (Jupiter number?) and number 21. Is there any relation with this number with 3.1416 find out. and now regarding concepts each square is higher than previous square by 1.25 or multiples thereof if you double 1.25 you will get 2.5 if you multiply 2.5 with 1.25 you will get 3.125 oops nearer to 3.1416 36 divided by 21 you will get 1.714, if you minus from 3.1416 you will get 1.44 which is a related to square of 12 this 144 related to circle with 2.5 which comes to 360 degrees.

quotes from Vivekananda

Above all, beware of compromises. Hold on to your own principles in weal or woe and never adjust them to others’ “fads” through the greed of getting supporters. Your Atman is the support of the universe—whose support do you stand in need of? All is the Self or Brahman. The saint, the sinner, the lamb, the tiger, even the murderer, as far as they have any reality, can be nothing else, because there is nothing else. All knowledge that the world has ever received comes from the mind; the infinite library of the universe is in our own mind. All power is within you. You can do anything and everything. Believe in that. Do not believe that you are weak; do not believe that you are half-crazy lunatics, as most of us do nowadays. Stand up and express the divinity within you. All that is real in me is God; all that is real in God is I. The gulf between God and me is thus bridged. Thus by knowing God, we find that the kingdom of heaven is within us.
Sunday, 18 September, 2005 1:09 AM
Re: One more bites the dust in WITS.
Gann Harmonic Traders
if any body can be booted for religious stuff the Gann may be the one who talked and used religious symbols
And taken clues from religious text of india and bible. Even Gann himself will be booted out on that condition.

quote from swami Vivekananda

"Take up one idea. Make that one idea your life
- think of it, dream of it, and live on idea. Let the
brain, muscles, nerves, every part of your body, be
full of that idea, and just leave every other idea
Alone. This is the way to success."

There cannot be friendship without equality.
Sunday, 18 September, 2005 10:57 AM
Re: One more bites the dust in WITS.
Gann Harmonic Traders
dear ski woke (perm)
That is the quote from Vivekananda. Coming to the story of lord krishna and sudama. They are not friends until they became equal. sudama has not shared the food when it was asked by lord krishna. only when he repented and shared he became equal. That is the message beautiful message encoded in the story. You need to be equal and see equality every where. ==============krishnapvm
Tuesday, 20 September, 2005 1:11 AM
Gann spoke about the cause let us see ( pasya)

Gann spoke in mathematical formulas article

the lowest price may futures sold, is within 1/2 point of 67 1/2 which is 12/64 or 3/4 between 0 and 90 and
67 1/2 is half way between 45 and 90 which was the CAUSE of the may beans making lows for 5 years between
67-69 which indicated the big advance that followed as there are treble bottom between 67-69 in three different years. He stressed on the CAUSE in the ticker and investment digest. Here we SEE the reference of the cause in the example.

quote from Vivekananda

You cannot believe in God until you believe in
Yourself.
Friday, 7 October, 2005 6:51 PM
Gann said all good swings are cyclical

Gann said all good swing points are cyclical.
Wednesday, 9 November, 2005 10:44 PM
circle square and a triangle

There is circle square and a triangle. And also there is outside circle and outside square. Inside circle and inside squares are the initial vibration initiation vibration gives clues as to higher vibration. Both represent the same form. What is this vibration is the relation of square and a circle and its relation to the triangle.
Square divides the circle in four parts triangle three parts. The initial vibration will give the target and where maximum resistance can be met along with projected curve.

quote from Vivekananda

The power of purity—it is a definite power.
Thursday, 10 November, 2005 12:26 AM
Re: circle square and a triangle

hi friend
I am with sarvatho badra chakra which Gann copied from india from the past five years.
Friday, 11 November, 2005 11:12 PM
circle square and a triangle

There is a vibratory ratio and also vibratory direction. This direction in x and y axis is more important. This is done like cycle in x and y axis. I have given prediction continuously like giving a target before an exact date. This I am doing just to let the people know that there is a possibility to do.
Sunday, 20 November, 2005 1:30 AM
generating circle and a triangle lords Brahma Vishnu parameswara

If generating circle is five triangle are four. Initial triangle acts as vibration. Which is equitant to three forces Shiva Vishnu Brahma Shiva, The neutron Vishnu the maintainer and the protector, the electron Brahma the creator different combination of electrons makes (creates) the matter. The electrons connected to proton which is symbolized by the Brahma on lotus generating from the belly button (nabhisthan.)Of Vishnu lord. Around Shiva the
Neutron there is a beautiful dance of energy particle. Can we call it parvathi or ours adi devi shakti. unable to explain and stupefied by the dance of energy particle around the lord Shiva, the neutron modern scientists called it as beuaty,great guru adi shankara charya called it as soundarya lahari.

If we modify the triangle into five it becomes a square.

Now the generating circle, square and triangle are formed. This become the basis for the next square and circle. Next square gives the targets. Circle gives us the what it will do after that. Two opposite angles to be taken for balancing the time and price. There is an initial circle, square and triangle which give way to next square and circle. The initial square becomes part of the bigger circle.

quotes from Vivekananda

I am the thread that runs through all these pearls,"
And each pearl is a religion or even a sect thereof.
Such are the different pearls, and God is the thread
that runs through all of them; most people, however,
Are entirely unconscious of it.

“Comfort” is no test of truth; on the contrary, truth
Is often far from being “comfortable.”

“Face the brutes.” That is a lesson for all life—face
The terrible, face it boldly. Like the monkeys, the
hardships of life fall back when we cease to flee
Before them.

A few heart-whole, sincere, and energetic men and
Women can do more in a year than a mob in a century.
Monday, 25 July, 2005 11:51 PM
Truth of Gann

Stocks can be predicted with high success rate with the help of laws of nature along with the time frame. Revelation has strict to me when I am verifying some concepts in physcis.after a verifying so much of data of the past with so many time frames. I found the law of vibration is behind the cause of the market movement. The small difficult part of this whole study is where from to start the calculation. Gann insisted to study past data and patterns. This pattern study is important. He stresses more importance to higher bottoms or double bottoms and lower tops and double tops. Volume concept he has given much importance to this especially observe this pattern when we are making new high or low. Float analysis indicator will help in this regard swing points of the pastel the past swing points creates vibration have an effect on present prices. Only thing different vibration will have different effects. Price and time are calculated in the same way. I will continue again.regardshappy trading day sarvejana sukhino bhavathu(everybody live happily)
Wednesday, 29 March, 2006 2:00 AM
Re: numbers and concepts that goes into Gann studies-time factor

1)price and time are interchangeable
2)prices generated themselves will give a clue
3) There is a fixed factor number by which price range and prices are divided to know the time factor.
4) Once time factor is known Gann grid is formed.
5) When there is no ideal situation to the Gann grid shift the grid to balance it. When time is short price gets adjusted and goes above the normal to balance the time.
6) Price volume and time space are calculated and predicted in the same way.
7) time price volume space and pattern are important
8) for down moves different rules are applied
9)maximum resistance and support points can be predicted
10) Price targets within a time frame are highly accurate.

quotes from Vivekananda

Are great things ever done smoothly? Time, patience, and indomitable will must show.

Are you unselfish? That is the question. If you are, you will be perfect without reading a single religious book, without going into a single church or temple.

As body, mind, or soul, you are a dream; you really are Being, Consciousness, Bliss (satchidananda). You are the God of this universe.
Monday, 3 April, 2006 11:31 PM
Re: numbers and concepts that goes into Gann studies-time factor

the important numbers are 2.5 of 1.25 and the number 226 and as regards concepts equal space of x and y axis the time is the important concept.-------------krishnapvm
Wednesday, 5 April, 2006 11:46 PM
the secret of Gann

tunnel thru air novel written by w.d. Gann page no 125

Robert watched the movement of every woman who passed thru the gates of union station for Marie, but each minute brought bitter disappointment. His heart, which but a few hours ago was filled with love and happiness, was sad. Robert looked up as hands on the clock in the union station pointed to 1 o' clock--the time that he had appointed unto himself to wraith without taking
Some action to try to find Marie. No Marie was in sight.

quotes from Vivekananda


Be perfectly resigned, perfectly unconcerned; then alone can you do any true work. No eyes can see the real forces; we can only see the results. Put out self, forget it; just let God work, it is His business. Be strong! Don’t talk of ghosts and devils. We are the living devils. The sign of life is strength and growth. The sign of death is weakness. Whatever is weak, avoid! It is death. If it is strength, go down into hell and get hold of it! There is salvation only
For the brave.

Bless people when the revile you. Think how much good they are doing by helping to stamp out the false ego. Hold fast to the Atman, think only pure thoughts, and you will accomplish more than a regiment of mere preachers.
Saturday, 13 May, 2006 1:39 PM
Re: hey now Gann

I fully agree with law of vibration on all his points. but I would like to add the following

We study the time-periodic solutions to systems of conservation laws with elasticity. It is shown that under time-periodic boundary condition, the system admits at least one global time-periodic solution bounded uniformly with the same period. Key words:
Time-periodic solutions, elasticity. MR Subject Classification: 35H05 Research partly supported by Chinese Postdoctoral Grants, and Huiguo Foundation of National Education Committee of China. Current address: Department of Mechanics and... (Update humbly yours
Saturday, 4 November, 2006 2:47 PM
Re: Risk Calculation-some twist to be added

mr. syayaan jee

The calculations and numbers that you have highlighted are the same I believe strongly Gann used are almost same. It is from where to start is important. There are twists to that there must be a starting point to all. that we need to find out after that every thing
Is a sequence. Some thing need to be added. Time and price are calculated in the same way even volume space and pitch or trend.
Value of time is an important concept. When Gann said reversal is imminent when time meets price he means that they deviate and meat right? For that values of time and price are to be conversed into units and again he said all swings are cyclical. Think over we are nearer to Gann, then the Gann riddle is solved mostly. and another secret to Gann is as Vivekananda said work hard be
Holy and be pure fire will come.
Monday, 17 September, 2007 1:13 AM
Re: how did Gann predict the price before a specific date
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As promised in my earlier post on how Gann did project specific minimum price before a specific date in future. I am now giving clues on how did price takes support from a particular gravitation centre. Creation occurs at nabhistan or naval point. this is best
Demonstrated in the form of lord Vishnu one of the trinity of Hindus. Lord Vishnu laying in divine sleep (yoga nidra) and from his novel sprouts a flower in the another lord Brahma sits on the flowers. navel or belly button is at a particular ratio to the whole
Body. Different combination of electrons decides the matter. Brahma the lord of creation is electron, lord Vishnu the proton. Electron is linked to proton and number of electrons is in relation to proton. Brahma is the lord of creation. Coming back to the point how to identify a support point we need to take a pivot point based on some rules and connect with highest high. From there it’s all time and price at play. Remember Gann said when time meets price reversal is imminent. Work with strictly calendar days as atom doesn’t stop working because of holidays. There is a rhythm and dance of the time and price. in Hindu philosophy there
Are many base elements apart from elements on earth? Time is simply an element. And so it follows certain rules. Lord Shiva is the neutron the destructor. Around lord Shiva or neutron the energy moves. this energy is the consort of lord Shiva who dance around
Shiva. She does three things while dancing her moves around herself and moves around lord Shiva and taps her foot. from here the whole expansion and contrition occurs

Next time I will give a clue as to how to identify time values means time is associated with price. From there it is all even and odd squares at play.
Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 1:23 AM
now the Indian clerk dr. ramanuhan the greatest mathematician and w.d.gann
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"This power is known and understood by the adepts of India." this quote is from tunnel thru air of wd Gann on page 264. Gann reference is hidden to be unearthed.
Gann theories all mathematical. Who is the greatest mathematician other than the Indian mathematician dr.ramanujan the world knows at that time. Gann might have learnt from this greatest mathematician on how universe moves with particular number or ratio sequence and how it double and treble. DR. ramanujan says universe moves by 10/8 can we call it further 5/4. Now call it 1.25 ok now go to page number 125 Robert was in the union station time at one o clock. Robert was searching for Marie. But no Marie was found. There is a grammatical mistake here. Is he searching for all the maries in the world? Any how Marie is a five letter world. Is he searching for five? Go to page number 25 there is world called harmony. now go to page number 400 there is a word
Called circled four in Gann studies taken as four square is circled when you circle the square can you fine the 5/4 or 10/8.

To round up the story dr. ramanujan was a Indian clerk from tamilnadu, a Brahmin boy who written some thoeries on prime numbers and shot to famous asked work with other scientists in the west. When asked how is getting this maths he answered he is getting from goddess. He has given many astounding theories in mathematics. His contributions are tremendous. now a novel is in the market called the Indian clerk about the this greatest mathematician dr. ramanujan
Tuesday, 18 September, 2007 9:44 PM
searching for a vanishing point in the deserts of Egypt-ready with a shovel and towel
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Are you ready with a shovel and towel? Let us straight go into deserts of Egypt. Are we seeing three pyramids? Why cannot we draw a circling touching all three pyramids from a corner? The circle will run into Cairo. ok now draw circle having the touch point from
The other corners of the pyramid. The two circle some where meet right. Where they meet I suppose they meet at the wall of the last pyramid. That wall some how different with a different angle. And the place where the two circle meets is at the wall. Just at that place there is an extra lump of sand. I think when Egypt wants to hide something they bury below the wall. Where the circle meets let us call it as vanishing point. There must be something below the wall. as the boat was found at the first pyramid
Vanishing point. I suppose there must be bigger prize waiting for right below the wall where two circle meets that is vanishing point. Are we ready with a shovel and towel to dig for a pot of gold?

Ok let us start digging for a secret right in the middle of markets for gold at an eclipse or a vanishing point.

Shall we go ahead? And are you ready.
Wednesday, 19 September, 2007 9:34 AM
Re: searching for a vanishing point in the deserts of Egypt-ready with a shovel and towel
Time-Price-Research-I
dear jmh10,

Have you tried to take a pen and paper draw three pyramids and connect the three sides as I told to know the properties of the diagram. Take pains to do that. Certain things don’t change with age. As we all don’t change with certain things. Gann belongs to this age and time. He doesn’t belong to ancient time. I think you got the meaning.
Thursday, 20 September, 2007 11:41 PM
bingo there is a hinge, in Gann clock only one hand moves
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Every body talks of extremes, market moves in extremes, dog and leash and other platitudes. But no body defines what an extreme is. Even Gann is at it. If we have to define an extreme there must be reference by which we can measure an extreme. Yes true market moves in extremes. Provided we know the starting point. What is this starting of Gann eluding us? The starting point is the difference between two events in time. That is a stopped hand in the Gann clock. I am sure gorge Bayer and Gann both are at
It. what about moving hand. Go to page no 131 there is reference of time at 1.30. And Gann said the more the fall the more the reaction. I am inveigled by this kind of statements from the master. And the answered unfolded once the hinge is known. Yes rest assured there is a hinge to start with.

As regards Joes worry about money management. It is common thing to worry about money management. It is separate science. And as far as money management with Gann techniques is concerned it is entirely different. As Gann is weird and so his methods of prediction and so his money management. His allocation to portfolio is as peculiar as his methods.
Saturday, 22 September, 2007 2:35 AM
how does the time meets price to get a resistance
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The Gann famous quote of when time meets price reversal is imminent. How a does two different things meets unless both are related and speak the same language. In this case let us convert price into Indian currency. see in the attached file you will see
A chart called Gujarat industrial power. This is the clear demonstration how time meets price at exactly 58 days rest. 18 giving us a rhythm. Every time 58 days meet rest. 18 move up it is resisting. I think this will do how stocks move into rhythm.
Tuesday, 25 September, 2007 12:48 AM
Flag this message and now about wavelength-stocks and atoms
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Gann said he can know the wavelength of each stock. What wave length he is talking of. Ok get let us get back to hard core business from just a visceral to simple maths. Each stock is like an atom he said. and so what is the implication for the price of a
Stock. Each electron can have their intelligence of course with their wave length limits. When it was experimented in labs with two holes in such a way electrons are to be shouted into a hole. they were just going like a school children in a disciplined way
Into one hole called A. when A hole was closed. Electrons that are directed at A hole changed their direction gone into B hole. How come the electrons that are supposed go into A whole came to know that A hole is closed. And gone to B hole. why they should they
Choose B hole atoll. They can go anywhere if they choose to go. I read the arguments on this. All electrons are intelligence and have free will. And they are in you and me and in stones and every where. and we have our own free will and intelligence apart
Form electrons that are in us. We can also say they are higher intelligence having its own free will. Which is called mahath in Sanskrit? Vedas are not for personal god I believe. They are about principles presently I don’t believe in any personal god though. Getting back to the story. Each stock has got wavelength and Gann can calculate it. Wavelength is how long a stock can go without any major reaction. This major reaction has to understand in relative way which can be calculated with time in mind. Mind it, price is ditty. At a particular stage Gann. said price generated themselves can give a clue. By the time he gave this statement he evolved from complex model to simple model which works in the same way. This is my understanding. Going directly to American stock AEP meddle with this number 106, 106 days meddle with it. From top to bottom. it has not passed through 106 days without
Major correction in time at least. This 106 can be used in many ways though. Meddle with it and play with it. Try to understand. I told correction in time also. That is why Gann used to quantify all corrections in terms of time. To see the maximum wave length that a stock can go.
Wednesday, 26 September, 2007 11:13 PM
Flag this message now about cause and effect
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As we already know there must be a cause to have an effect. What is this cause? Cause is particular condition between two extremes of price and time. The condition is how price behaves in relation to time. the cause gives the last precise date and min
Price it touches before that date.

Some time we need to go far away to see the cause. Once cause is known we can see the effect before a date. Science says cause may give rise to effect. This may word is something they used and it seems they stopped there. as they have not taken the extreme
Point rules in to account. Once the extreme point is known any cause between two extreme will have an effect in future.
Tuesday, 2 October, 2007 1:04 AM
going back from 1940 and Gann trend line
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This is the double title of the book tunnel thru air by w.d. Gann. Gann is referring to future date. Can you see Gann drawing line future point to the back? This is what it is back from 1940. the sun is depicted in the Hindu mythology as drawing a chariot with
Horses controlled by leashes in the form of snakes. These are rays LIGHT rays in the form of snakes. Snakes are not straight. Right.

Gann target are always with a price before a specific date. It is like the swimmer diving into the pool and appearing at the other end of the pool. He can appear before or don’t appear until other end of the pool. Gann price targets are like that. they can reach
The target before a specific date into the future. This is the peculiar future of the time and price study drawing trend line from future once the cause is shown.

Gann subject is weird. It has to be understood from wordless state of mind. This is what I believe and understood.

I will try to cover as many aspect of Gann studies as possible for me.
Sunday, 7 October, 2007 1:55 AM
markets and goddess aged 16 very playful and dear
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In Hindu and Buddhist tantrik traditions and Vedic traditions of india triangles are used in all their rituals. Vedic traditions of Hindus support inward meditation. The people who are outcast from Vedic traditions are allowed to do tantric traditions. again
There are different sects within vamachara (left hand path) sects. Some sects of vamachara do the pratyaksha puja (outward worship) of energy points in women.

Gann said there is triangle square and circle. There is an inner circle and outer circle and inner square and outer square. Triangle is the base point on which squares and circle depends. This where the vibration occurs. In soundarya lahari (soundarya means beauty, scientists wondered with inner working of atom called it as beauty) written by sankaracharya this point is the centre (bindu) in the form of three dots connected we will get a triangle. this is the inner most point in the shree yantra a diagram the most complicated yantra on earth to draw. It is experimented that if ohm is pronounced before a machine that draws for each sound, it has drawn the most complicated yantra shree yantra.

The centre point or the cot on which goddess the parvathi and the god of trinity of Hindu the lord Shiva enjoy the sexual union. From this union of lord Shiva and shathi (shakthi means energy and also name of the goddess) expansion and contraction occurs.

Without understanding the triangle where we have to draw we cannot know how to draw squares and circle, inner and outer. The triangle is the point from where the vibration dances mathematically to double and treble. It seems that for scientists this is eluding from where to draw a triangle, what are the three point that has to be connected. In Gann circle it is common to listen about square and ellipses. I believe and see the evidence that square and circles cannot be defined without defining what a triangle is. All are dependent on triangle.

Every thing markets moves with numbers. They have to adhere to the numbers and geometry. There are gravitational centre constantly moving creates extreme points. And it is to be noted that price time meet and moves from each other. Price and time got their own cycles. And they are related to each other in perfect mathematical way. They dance to the tunes of numbers.
Monday, 15 October, 2007 12:00 AM
Robert secret of seven in the novel and my journey to the seven hills
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Sitting before the computer screen inundated with plethora of charts on the screen searching for Gann seven multiplied seven years
and waiting for action for the action followed by another seven years of jubilee period I was informed one of the company team
Where I invested as a venture capitalist is going to seven hills (treaty) for a business, the most pious place for Hindus. I asked them
To book for me too. Many times I went there on the bear foot all the way touching all seven hills to the top of the seventh where
The god of Hindus (the reincarnating of Vishnu or narayana one of the trinity of Hindu god resides. Enjoying the serene beauty
Surrounded by the hills, I was watching the frozen geometry into these ancient sculptures of the temples. Amazed by innumerable
Number of devotes waiting to worship throughout ages, it occurred to me it is not frozen geometry. It was morning 2 o clock in the
Chilling cold all seven doors opened for us to have the opportunity of seeing the god. Closed my eyes to have the imprint of god
Along with principles he taught. When I turned the opposite I saw a mirror. I have seen the god in the mirror. I have seen my self
Too. God and mirror another frozen geometry Gann saying of angular pitch. Seeing and moving where is the third of the triangle
Other than god and mirror. I was moving, the distance between me the god and mirror changing. Time frozen for me at that time
From seven years of Gann to just events. There was water flowing beneath my feet. It is said where ever the god narayana or
Vishnu resides water should be there. It is customary t in the pictures to show god narayana in the water with yogic sleep on the
Serpent curled three and half times (half of seven). Afterward I remember the Robert hero was trying make his bicycle to float on
Water. This is another way of telling he is trying two different cycles to work together
Saturday, 20 October, 2007 1:30 AM
my conversation with ganndude on squares
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ganndude2004 (10/19/2007 11:58:07 PM): hi Murali
ganndude2004 (10/19/2007 11:58:21 PM): sorry I missed
you....ended up falling asleep last night
ganndude2004 (10/19/2007 11:58:36 PM): hope your
trading day went well...I have to imagine it did

krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:04:16 AM): ok
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:04:25 AM): yes
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:04:58 AM): how is the market
there
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:06:33 AM): hey
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:06:38 AM): hi
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:06:42 AM): how is the market
there
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:06:49 AM): markets are
dropping at a good rate
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:06:53 AM): ok
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:07:06 AM): have you come out
of long positions
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:07:16 AM): 13,639.65
-249.31 (-1.80%)
http://finance.google.com/finance?cid=13756934
2,751.95 -47.36 (-1.69%)
http://finance.google.com/finance?cid=626307 1,513.66
-26.42 (-1.72%)
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:07:29 AM): live been out
and only in bonds since the day of the rate cut
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:07:44 AM): ok
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:07:48 AM): it will be at
least 1 yr before this mess is over
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:08:00 AM): probably closer
to 3
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:08:19 AM): ok
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:08:27 AM): can you trade
Your stocks short?
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:08:32 AM): today how much
fall
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:08:34 AM): in down
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:08:38 AM): 13,639.65
-249.31 (-1.80%)
http://finance.google.com/finance?cid=13756934
2,751.95 -47.36 (-1.69%)
http://finance.google.com/finance?cid=626307 1,513.66
-26.42 (-1.72%)
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:08:46 AM): 1.8 today so
far
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:08:48 AM): ok
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:08:52 AM): ok
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:09:12 AM): our 17 the 1;8th
becoming your 19th
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:09:31 AM): yes!'
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:09:34 AM): good point
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:10:20 AM): interesting
that this is the 20th anniversary for our biggest day
crash....and then 20 yrs later , its yours
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:10:31 AM): yes
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:10:40 AM): sorry, what I
said wasn't quite true
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:10:52 AM): 20th
anniversary for our biggest one day fall
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:10:58 AM): ok
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:11:05 AM): Gann universal
dates
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:11:10 AM): anniversary
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:11:12 AM): dates
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:12:12 AM): square is a real
geometrical square issue
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:12:24 AM): Gann used simple
ruler to measure
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:12:35 AM): point in between
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:12:52 AM): you use a
carpenter square
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:12:56 AM): that is great
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:12:56 AM): yes
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:13:44 AM): have you read my
article
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:13:57 AM): on my journey to
seven hills
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:14:23 AM): there I gave my
all points almost all
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:14:48 AM): teaching is a
very difficult even to Gann
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:15:00 AM): this I understood
from his statement
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:15:11 AM): I read it, and
I mostly remember your statement about you, God, and
the mirror
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:15:15 AM): start from second
or third bottom
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:15:28 AM): your point is
correct
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:15:29 AM): Ok.....go on
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:15:32 AM): that is a
triangle
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:15:44 AM): actually it is
rotational geometry
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:15:45 AM): ah!
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:15:58 AM): second or third
bottom Gann said
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:16:13 AM): he might have
frustrated and gave that statement
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:16:16 AM): how do you know
Which?
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:16:21 AM): I see
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:16:44 AM): because of
pestering of students
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:16:50 AM): to know the whole
logic
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:17:05 AM): he tried may be
but student should be receptive
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:17:12 AM): this is what my
opinion is
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:17:36 AM): in rotational
geometry many variations exist
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:17:39 AM): he cannot teach
all
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:17:42 AM): I would have to
agree - especially seeing the recent events in our
little group
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:18:05 AM): frustration
levels are high.....and causes people to shut out
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:18:06 AM): student has to
come with underlying philosophy
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:18:19 AM): yes.....I agree
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:18:25 AM): student need to
understand basic
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:18:38 AM): he was selective
no doubt
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:18:46 AM): in fact, its
when I run out of ideas with the numbers that I go
back to these philosophies and his statements
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:18:55 AM): it opens ideas
again
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:18:57 AM): that is good
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:19:22 AM): I have a long
way ahead of me yet...but its good that I can share
these experiences with you
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:20:11 AM): ok
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:20:45 AM): right now I am
watching the EURO - I believe it will top for today at
1.4315
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:20:59 AM): ok
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:21:27 AM): the thing is
basic philosophy
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:21:35 AM): first understand
that we are all one
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:21:41 AM): every thing is
one
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:21:45 AM): no personal god
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:21:56 AM): ok
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:22:05 AM): this is the basic
philosophy of Gann as I understand
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:22:07 AM): I picture a
circle for this
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:22:09 AM): we are one and
nature is one
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:22:11 AM): something
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:22:23 AM): ok
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:22:26 AM): from there
vibrations you receive
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:22:48 AM): but we are
indoctrinated from child hood fear of one god
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:22:52 AM): we are with god
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:23:10 AM): even Jesus said
you and me and father are one
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:23:19 AM): people interpret
in different way
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:23:51 AM): yes they
do......even though Jesus also said "The Kingdom of
God is within you"
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:24:04 AM): true
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:24:04 AM): funny how
people don't see that relationship
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:24:24 AM): let us come out
of indoctrination of selfish fellows
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:24:33 AM): who wants to
control us with fear
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:24:39 AM): ok
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:24:42 AM): so that they
enjoy money as being leaders
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:24:52 AM): or [power
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:24:56 AM): power
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:25:00 AM): power
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:25:36 AM): or "^" as in
2^2
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:25:45 AM): yes
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:25:51 AM): but yes, I
understand what your saying
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:27:01 AM): so...we are all
one....that that these are the vibrations I
Receive.....so how do you know what to respond to?
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:27:37 AM): I picture price
as the average of these vibrations
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:28:32 AM): I am having
difficulty explaining what I am trying to say
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:31:03 AM): so...we are all
one....that that these are the vibrations I
Receive.....where does time fit into this?
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:31:53 AM): yes
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:32:07 AM): first after
experience that state of mind
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:32:18 AM): your mind is with
fearlessness
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:32:27 AM): as there is no
completion
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:32:32 AM): you are part of
whole
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:32:45 AM): no completion
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:33:09 AM): all in you
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:33:14 AM): you understand
people
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:33:25 AM): you are a moving
centre in every body
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:33:40 AM): then you
sympathies with
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:33:53 AM): you act with all
their centre once you sympathies
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:34:01 AM): then real
knowledge will come
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:34:11 AM): as you are centre
of every thing
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:34:18 AM): then bliss
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:34:30 AM): as you are every
where and you know every thing
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:34:39 AM): this is called
sat chit ananda
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:34:48 AM): existence
knowledge and bliss
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:35:01 AM): you exist and you
are every where
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:35:04 AM): you know
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:35:07 AM): every things
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:35:15 AM): and you are bliss
full
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:35:48 AM): ok...this does
make sense
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:35:51 AM): time is simply
another element
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:36:08 AM): in Indian sastras
or scriptures
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:36:31 AM): they follow their
vibrations
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:36:46 AM): means it is like
another element in periodic table of chemistry
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:36:56 AM): it got its own
properties
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:37:08 AM): and again time is
an illusion
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:37:13 AM): what is time
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:37:25 AM): it is difference
between two events
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:37:38 AM): just two events
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:37:57 AM):
Interesting.....
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:38:08 AM): we are
indoctrinated with sun centre
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:38:13 AM): the light bulb
went on
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:38:24 AM): are we centre in
this big universe
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:38:34 AM): with sun alone
Krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:39:07 AM):
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:39:16 AM): No...I feel we
are not
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:39:24 AM): so take evens
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:39:28 AM): so take events
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:39:48 AM): I like this sweet
called babushka
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:40:02 AM): let us say I ate
it today
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:40:11 AM): ok
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:40:13 AM): when I did in the
past
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:40:24 AM): this is an
important
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:40:34 AM): difference
between similar events
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:40:39 AM): and then comes
thirst
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:40:41 AM): third
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:40:52 AM): when I want to
eat it again
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:41:13 AM): and I want to go
to a place
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:41:17 AM): I planned it
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:41:28 AM): when I did plan
is an event
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:41:36 AM): when I have gone
is an event
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:41:46 AM): when I did book
is an event
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:42:24 AM): actually Gann
might have short of words to explain everything
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:42:26 AM): Ok......so,
everything has a start middle and end
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:42:29 AM): it is to only
squaring
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:42:39 AM): it comes with
triangle square an circle
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:42:49 AM): and their meeting
points
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:43:04 AM): yes
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:43:14 AM): then comes the
another concept called balancing
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:43:36 AM): this all about
initial vibration
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:44:28 AM): Initial
Vibration from the start
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:44:47 AM): whole three
events part of initial vibration
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:45:06 AM): then it double and
trebles in future after going there
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:45:08 AM): we enjoy
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:45:21 AM): within a time
frame or limit
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:45:25 AM): afterwards
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:45:29 AM): after going there
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:45:46 AM): but...this is
where I am confused
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:46:04 AM): time - to
create a limit, would imply that this is bounded
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:46:05 AM): small end in
initial vibration
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:46:15 AM): whole experience
repeat at higher level
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:46:18 AM): level
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:46:42 AM): this is begging of
another cycle
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:46:49 AM): ok
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:47:01 AM): initial vibration
is only 1.7
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:47:07 AM): 1/7
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:47:34 AM):.....and
final vibration is always 3
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:47:43 AM): ......I read
this
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:47:44 AM): good point
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:47:46 AM): this is Gann
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:47:55 AM): TTTA...in the
forward
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:47:57 AM): yes
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:48:01 AM): omg.....you
explained it
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:48:03 AM): this three and
seven
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:48:08 AM): I have not been
able to understand that
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:48:11 AM): ok
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:48:14 AM): wow!
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:48:30 AM): and that is why
3 = 7
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:48:40 AM): and why 4 is
square
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:48:59 AM): and 3+7= 1
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:49:06 AM): yes
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:49:15 AM):
Murali....wow....
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:49:24 AM): my eyes ...I
can see a bit better
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:49:27 AM):
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:49:32 AM): 6 8 10
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:49:34 AM): half them
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:49:40 AM): 3 4 5
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:49:54 AM): this is dr.
ramanuja maths
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:50:20 AM): creation and
everything occurs in this numbers
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:50:50 AM): 1 goes with every
thing
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:51:02 AM): with two we can
half and double anything
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:51:08 AM): so 1 2 3 4 5
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:51:14 AM): natural sequence
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:52:05 AM): this 3 4 5 are
very important
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:52:13 AM): three plus four
are seven
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:53:09 AM): ok
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:53:19 AM): 7 = 1
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:53:26 AM): this initial
vibration
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:53:38 AM): starting to
understand this concept
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:53:39 AM): doubles within a
time limit
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:53:51 AM): within
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:54:04 AM): my key board
giving a problem
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:54:07 AM): so mistakes
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:54:23 AM): this is a must
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:54:33 AM): provided we start
correctly
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:54:39 AM): correctly
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:54:53 AM): Murali.......I
need to step away for a bit
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:54:55 AM): it is not simply
doubling
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:54:59 AM): might be about
30 minutes
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:55:03 AM): doubling
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:55:10 AM): it is again
mathematical relation
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:55:14 AM): ok
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 12:55:15 AM): keep talking
..I will catch up when I can
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 12:55:23 AM): ok
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 1:22:04 AM): I am back...sorry
about that
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 1:22:17 AM): just need a
minute to catch up
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 1:23:08 AM): ok
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 1:23:28 AM): can I use this
conversation to post it in group
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 1:23:55 AM): yes you may
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 1:23:59 AM): with my blessing
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 1:24:04 AM): ok than our
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 1:25:21 AM): ok...I
understand the math relationship and the higher level
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 1:27:13 AM): where does
balancing fit
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 1:27:21 AM):
krishnapvm (10/20/2007 1:27:49 AM): life is not ideal
we need to balance it to make it ideal’s
ganndude2004 (10/20/2007 1:28:06 AM): true
Sunday, 21 October, 2007 2:21 AM
what happened on 16th October at three pm before the day of the great fall
Time-Price-Research-I
I was verifying some stock on that day found that some shares are meeting price and the beginning point of square are very sharp falls as Gann said history repeats. I though that many shares are going to witness sharp fall. especially so many front line stock are meeting time. so I want to caution them on that on frontline stock if not money will be controlled by the brokers in the form of margin calls. irrespective of what ever the recovery afterwards happens. even on close to close until 19th it is disaster as far margin calls are concerned. this is practical issue first than thoeries.

in fact on the same day I mean 16th night I gave fresh calls on other stocks which are meeting my criteria which are for a long pull soon, as Gann said each share is different like an atom which have their own wave length and properties. as regards my opinion on calling tops and bottom I explained in the second part of conversation with Gann dude. and another thing I am not a hero nor a zero I am just an another energy like you in this huge nature. nature goes on and nature within goes on

trading is like marathon session we need a philosophy and plan to reach our goal. we encounter many thing in our journey but our aim is reach our goal irrespective of hindrances and mistakes.